[Ortho] Fwd: AO Basic Course Ukraine remarks
Alexander Chelnokov
alex61 на gmail.com
Вт Мар 4 16:12:36 YEKT 2014
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п©я─п╦я│п╩п╟п╩. Alexey, i must admit your english is greatly improved! ;-)
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п·я┌: "Alex" <salut.13 на gmail.com>
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п╒п╣п╪п╟: Fwd: Ukraine
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lt;dgordi на mail.ru>" <dgordi на mail.ru>, "<oleynik77 на gmail.com>" <
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juergen.staiger на aofoundation.org>, "gudz59 на mail.ru" <gudz59 на mail.ru>,
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"<rozinov на childsurg.mtu-net.ru>" <rozinov на childsurg.mtu-net.ru>, "&
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*п·я┌:* Alexey Semenistyy <salut.13 на gmail.com>
*п■п╟я┌п╟:* 4 п╪п╟я─я┌п╟ 2014 пЁ., 2:30:40 GMT+04:00
*п п╬п╪я┐:* Oleksandr Rikhter <rikhtermd на gmail.com>
*п п╬п©п╦я▐:* "C. Werken" <chr.werken на gmail.com>, Andrey Volna <
volna.andrey на gmail.com>, endre varga <endrevargamd на yahoo.com>, "Schwab,
Peter - Switzerland, Zuchwil" <schwab.peter на synthes.com>, "Welte, Thomas -
Switzerland, Solothurn" <welte.thomas на synthes.com>, Gudushauri Manana <
syngeo на yahoo.com>, "senften.hans на synthes.com" <senften.hans на synthes.com>,
Joseph Schatzker <joe на schatzker.com>, Schatzmann Doris <
schatzmann.doris на synthes.com>, Wagner Michael <michael.wagner на wienkav.at>,
"Susan A. W. Alexander" <salexander на umc.edu>, Gautier Emanuel <
Emanuel.Gautier на h-fr.ch>, Eduard Norberto <eduard.norberto на gmail.com>,
Konstantin Romanenko <konstantin.romanenko на gmail.com>, в·в∙в╘в≥в∙в▒ в╗в² - Mosheiff
Ram <RamiM на hadassah.org.il>, "rubin.lilian на synthes.com" <
rubin.lilian на synthes.com>, Rebecca Meyer <
Rebecca.Meyer на sportsclinicgermany.com>, "Markus Troeger Dr." <
markus.troeger на sportsclinicgermany.com>, "Fischbach, Toru - Switzerland,
Zuchwil" <fischbach.toru на synthes.com>, "Thomas.Simeon на aofoundation.org" <
Thomas.Simeon на aofoundation.org>, "Tim.Pohlemann на uniklinikum-saarland.de" <
Tim.Pohlemann на uniklinikum-saarland.de>, Pakholchuk Yaroslav <
y.pakholchuk на 1plus1.tv>, "uo на klinikum-fulda.de" <uo на klinikum-fulda.de>, "
urs.schlegel на aofoundation.org" <urs.schlegel на aofoundation.org>, Inga Beyer <
inga.beyer на sportsclinicgermany.com>, "ibadrutt на aotrauma.org" <
ibadrutt на aotrauma.org>, "Oberholzer.Stefan на synthes.com" <
Oberholzer.Stefan на synthes.com>, "Heim Dominik, PD Dr. med." <
dominik.heim на spitalfmi.ch>, "pikaro на rambler.ru" <pikaro на rambler.ru>, paata
gudushauri <pa_ata72 на hotmail.com>, Philipp Lobenhoffer <
philipp.lobenhoffer на sportsclinicgermany.com>, piet de boer <
meczurich на aol.com>, "Pavlovic.Stephanie на synthes.com" <
Pavlovic.Stephanie на synthes.com>, Aivar Pintsaar <aivar.pintsaar на gmail.com>,
"Avdeychuk.Dmitry на synthes.com" <Avdeychuk.Dmitry на synthes.com>, Schleifer
Evelin Maria <EvelinMaria.Schleifer на klinikum-graz.at>, "Dr. Martin Jaeger" <
martin.jaeger на uniklinik-freiburg.de>, Srabanti Dey <Dey.Srabanti на synthes.com>,
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f.baumgaertel на t-online.de>, "fernandez.francisco на synthes.com" <
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Forsberg.Nicolai на synthes.com" <Forsberg.Nicolai на synthes.com>, "
GClay на aotrauma.org clay" <GClay на aotrauma.org>, Gubser Claudio <
cgubser на aotrauma.org>, Axel Gц╓nsslen <dr.gaensslen на gmx.de>, "
Hess.Daniel на synthes.com" <Hess.Daniel на synthes.com>, James Hughes <
jimvahughes на aol.com>, "Herren.Timo на synthes.com" <Herren.Timo на synthes.com>,
Jarek Brudnicki <jarbru на mp.pl>, Jarosе┌aw Brudnicki <jarbrudnicki на gmail.com>,
Javid Bayramli MEDEKS <javid.bayramli на medeks.az>, "
juergen.staiger на aofoundation.org" <juergen.staiger на aofoundation.org>, "
Jung.Uwe на synthes.com" <Jung.Uwe на synthes.com>, "KKlezlova на aotrauma.org" <
KKlezlova на aotrauma.org>, "kocher.katharina на synthes.com" <
kocher.katharina на synthes.com>, Kristian Kley <
kristian.kley на sportsclinicgermany.com>, lrieger на aotrauma.org, "
LWelti на aotrauma.org" <LWelti на aotrauma.org>, Cristian Bucur <
cristianbucur на rondamedical.ro>, "CStampfli на aotrauma.org" <
CStampfli на aotrauma.org>, Berndt.Juergen на synthes.com, "
minder.juerg на synthes.com" <minder.juerg на synthes.com>, "mredies на aotrauma.org"
<mredies на aotrauma.org>, Marius Moraru <mariusmoraru на rondamedical.ro>
*п╒п╣п╪п╟:* *п·я┌п╡п╣я┌: Ukraine*
Dear all, dear AO friends! I would like to confirm that there is not a
conflict neither between Russians and Ukrainians inside the Ukraine no
inside Russia and no between peoples of both countries. However our leaders
and some corrupted units are trying to act in point of view their
geopolitical and probably business interests. Unfortunately they do not
care about people, citizens of our states. I do not understand why but
Media are spreading a lot of disinformation which results in
international tension and growing distrust between Russia and Ukraine,
between Russians, Ukrainians and others nations.
I have just come back from Kiev where very well organized AO Basic Course
took place. I saw people from east, west and south (the Krim) part of
Ukraine, Ukranian speaking and Russian speaking, and I confirm there is no
a conflict. I saw Kiev: there are no ultranationalistic groups of people,
people with guns. There is a lot of people speaking Russian without fears.
There are many billboard in Russian in Kiev streets. People go to work,
children go school, public transportation works in standard way. People
mourn over the dead and got a chance to be a part of Europe they do only
worry about unstable situation in the Krim, and they are afraid of
treacherous plans of Kremlin. That is why planned Advances Course is
postponed. The Ukraine is a really beautiful undivided country, people are
very friendly,
Dear Sasha, dear Ukranian friends we pray for you and wish a peace and
prosperity!
Sincerelly yours Alexey Semenisty on behalf of AOTrauma Russia.
2014-03-03 13:48 GMT+04:00 Oleksandr Rikhter <rikhtermd на gmail.com>:
> Dear Chris
> Please tell everybody you know!
> We don't have a conflict between Russian and Ukrainian speaking people. We
> don't have terrorists or radicals in Ukraine! If you believe in such a
> statement - I am the biggest terrorist and radical!!! The words you were
> writing show me that Russion info war settle down even in Netherland!!!
> We are living in peace witnout any problem and you could see it during
> your many visits.
> Every day dozen buses come to Ukraine from Russia for last few weeks
> with people those are provocateurs! Those are trying to simulate a kind of
> protest for the Russing lenguage and against terrorists. They want to show
> that people in Ukraine ask Putin to to joint this territory to Russia! This
> information is spreading all over the world quickly and I see effectively.
> The Kremlin showed the reaction even more than quick because the Russian
> army did the intervension to The Krim, locked the Krim government,
> roads, our military bases and put on head positon the person who well
> knowed for the local people like the old gangster BEFORE the Russion
> parliament made this decision! I write the Kremlin because we love our
> Russian friends and we really appreciate Andrey's support not just in
> writing a letters but showing his posion on the main Moscow squares.
> Just imaging someone come to your house with a weapon to help you and
> teach you how to live because they want to save you!
> I want to ask everybody to spread this information and not to be
> INDIFFERENT!!!
> Please ask yourself - What can I do now for Ukraine to avoid this
> situation in my country! Please, go to your government, Russian Embassy
> with a pieceful protest to safe YOUR country in the way of support Ukraine
> because if we don't safe Ukraine YOUR Contry will be NEXT!
> We don't want to fight with our friends and brothers in Russia. We've just
> paid a huge price for the European future losing a hundred of our heros! We
> just cleaned our country from the dictator and killer who is gone to his
> Russian friend and colleague!
> We are beautiful and peaceful nation! Everybody who was here know about
> it. We want to build our country without any kind of "military support".
> Our country is united now like never! Poor people and oligarchs, west and
> east, Russion and Ukrainian speaking people - all for Ukraine, Ukraine for
> all!
>
> Sincerelly yours!
> Oleksandr
>
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> п╡п╬я│п╨я─п╣я│п╣п╫я▄п╣, 2 п╪п╟я─я┌п╟ 2014 пЁ. п©п╬п╩я▄п╥п╬п╡п╟я┌п╣п╩я▄ C. Werken п╫п╟п©п╦я│п╟п╩:
>
>> Dear Sasha,
>> I sincerely hope that you and your familty are fine under the current,
>> very difficult and turbulent situation.
>> I don't know your position in this conflict between - as far as we know
>> in The Netherlands - the Ukrainian speaking people and those with a Russian
>> orientation. The situation in the Krim worries us most for the moment,
>> there seems to be a creeping invasion taking place and I can't imagine the
>> consequences.
>> I hope that last week's Basic Principles Course went well. Our Advanced
>> Priciples course is absolutely not cancelled but just postponed.
>> I look forward to meet you later this year, wish you all the best and
>> keep my fingers crossed.
>> With feelingsd of sincere sympathy
>> Chris
>>
>>
>
> --
> Oleksandr Rikhter, MD
> mob.+380503755461
> rikhtermd на gmail.com
>
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